Valen's Sketchblog
A place for me to post my sketches, WIP, and finished art pieces. I also post other art I find awesome and inspiring as well as helpful art tutorials from other artists.
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kyleehenke:

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STOPPP RIGHT THERE BUSTER

I just found this in a commission journal on DA. Points commissions are honestly the worst because A) lots of people offering to take points usually have no idea how much they’re actually worth and B) points are only a valid currency on DEVIANTART….

Have you really considered what kind of currency Points are? They are a flowing currency ALL THROUGHOUT DA. They literally provide a much easier way to earn something, and not only that, give people a far cheaper spending range. Here on tumblr?

Talksprites can cost me up to $8-20

Digital Paintings can go for from what I’ve seen, up to $100

On DA?

I personally do Talksprites for around 40-100 Points. So around less then a dollar. I don’t feel ripped off in the slightest. I do that because I can buy a LOT of stuff on DA for 100 points. And not only that, I can commit to what I buy and MAKE something out of it. Something worth around 60 points has become my most recognized character. A little more then 40 cents. That’s all it (in retrospect) costed me.

Now if this was a recently incorporated currency, then FUCK YEAH DUDE! Points would be a terrible idea! But its a currently moving currency. People trade with them. Sell with them. Buy with them. Whether they are worth less then a penny or not, it is still an active currency. Saying that just because something is less then a dollar it is worthless is like saying that the currency Yen is worthless. Yen is worth less, but its still a used currency.

I’m not saying that people shouldn’t commission those on tumblr. Dude if you want effort, I would say go commission a Tumblr Artist. Tumblr artists are REALLY AMAZING. But if you want a deal, then look around DA and save up points! Yeah its a little harder to find things, but its honestly worth the search. 

Points are A-Okay~

Kylee wrote her own response to this person but I feel like I have to chime in because this is some seriously bass ackwards bullshit thinking.

I’m going to break this post down bit by bit.

Have you really considered what kind of currency Points are? They are a flowing currency ALL THROUGHOUT DA

Have you considered that points are literally useless in every other platform? Have you considered that I can’t buy groceries or do my laundry or pay my bill with dA points? “Oh, hey cable guy, yeah, sorry I’m late on my bill this month? How’s about a couple thousand dA points to make up for it, would that cover it? NO? WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO?”

Points are not versatile. They’re only useable for one thing on one platform, and that is premium accounts/subscriptions to dA. The point system exists literally to make money for no one but DeviantArt itself, as a website and a company. You as an artist are not making money at ALL with points, you’re literally fucking working for the website.

They literally provide a much easier way to earn something, and not only that, give people a far cheaper spending range.

They literally provide a way for people to essentially get art for slave labour. I’m exaggerating here because obviously people do it of their own free will, but people aren’t getting paid to do it, which is the entire fucking point of kylee’s post and I’m really surprised that it just flew over your head. Do you understand that producing artwork for money actually is what people do to protect their livelihood? Do you understand that for a lot of people who peddle their wares on the internet, getting actual, cold hard cash for their work in art is what keeps them afloat in real life?

But yeah, never mind them, I mean, y’know, if you can get something for fucking pennies, who gives a shit about who else it might be affecting, you sure got yourself a slammin’ deal on some art!

Talksprites can cost me up to $8-20

Digital Paintings can go for from what I’ve seen, up to $100

DID YOU KNOW THAT THE PRICE YOU PAY FOR THOSE PIECES ACTUALLY STILL FALLS BELOW MINIMUM WAGE AND BELOW INDUSTRY STANDARD????

let me break it down for you.

Say a talksprite takes about 3 hours to make. One hour to sketch out all of the necessary frames, and then 2 more hours to clean up all of the frames, make sure they line up correctly, colour them, and animate them.

Let’s assume that minimum wage is 8$! AN HOUR.

So, what you’re doing is paying the person just over $2.50/hr. 

And you fuckin feel good about yourself doing that? You mean to tell me that you feel good paying someone literal peanuts, and having them work for below minimum wage? If you do, that’s fucking reprehensible. It’s sad and fucked up and I’m sorry that you have no concept of what is a liveable wage or what people actually need in this day and age to get by.

As far as the 100$ paintings go, uh, HELL YES I (and many other people) charge over hundreds of dollars for digital paintings because hey, who’da thunk, it takes a lot of fucking TIME to do those paintings. And not only time, it takes patience, it takes putting up with your back fucking killing you after sitting at the computer for 8 hours, it takes the cumulation of literally decades of perfecting our craft so you can have a fancy painting of your OC fucking Prince Hans or whatever. And you know what? We LOVE doing that shit, but for the right price. 

We’re not machines, we’re fucking artists. We deserve to get paid for what we do same as anyone else, and we deserve to get paid what we’re worth. And even for paintings like that, 100$ is still fucking leagues below industry baseline!! Do you know what baseline is for a fully rendered painting without a background, like for a character concept? $700. Seven hundred fucking dollars.

And you’re still trying to rip us off because you like points!!

I personally do Talksprites for around 40-100 Points. So around less then a dollar. I don’t feel ripped off in the slightest. I do that because I can buy a LOT of stuff on DA for 100 points. And not only that, I can commit to what I buy and MAKE something out of it. Something worth around 60 points has become my most recognized character. A little more then 40 cents. That’s all it (in retrospect) costed me.

Yes because clearly, you are the subject of the original post. Clearly, you alone were who we were referring to. Wow, I’m so glad you’ve cleared the air for us! You must be the spokesperson for every other fucking person on this planet who used dA and thought that yes, points are a viable form of currency except WAIT NO YOU’RE FUCKING NOT.

AGAIN, i’m going to bring the point to your attention that uh hi hello, points are basically fucking monopoly money. 

I’m gonna hit up the store today actually, and bring my phone with me, and show the lady at the counter when I go to pay for my groceries that I have a bunch of dA points! I’m gonna tell her that I worked REALLY hard for them, so obviously that makes them more valuable. 

Also lmfao what the fuck is this about ‘I can commit to what i buy and make something out of it’

…Can you not fucking do that with… y’know MONEY? LIKE ACTUAL MONEY?? I’m pretty sure money is relatively liquid in it’s uses, as in, you know it’s fucking accepted everywhere, not just on dA. 

'making something out of it' my candied ass.

Now if this was a recently incorporated currency, then FUCK YEAH DUDE! Points would be a terrible idea! But its a currently moving currency. People trade with them. Sell with them. Buy with them. Whether they are worth less then a penny or not, it is still an active currency. Saying that just because something is less then a dollar it is worthless is like saying that the currency Yen is worthless. Yen is worth less, but its still a used currency.

Oh my GOD ARE YOU SERIOUS???

Until fucking dA points show up as a viable form of currency in the currency exchange and until I can take dA points and actually convert them to real life money wherein they will officially EXIT the dA economy and I’ll be able to use them for things I need in this mortal coil, no, dA points are NOT CURRENCY. YOU CANNOT COMPARE dA POINTS TO YEN HOLY SHIt i’m just honestly reeling at the baffling stupidity of this particular paragraph.

dA points exist SOLELY to function in ONE ECONOMY ONLY, and that is dA’s economy. And they don’t even function that well! 

Do you know what happens when you buy points? You’re giving dA money.

Do you understand what happens when you circulate points around to other artists? That money stays within dA’s economy, it just floats around.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND that when you give those points back to dA for subscriptions, you’re essentially saying, HEY dA, THANKS FOR TAKING MY MONEY AND LETTING ME BORROW THESE USELESS POINTS FOR A WHILE, HERE, YOU CAN HAVE ‘EM BACK ALONG WITH THE MONEY I GAVE YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Clearly, you do not understand that.

And what’s more, to address another GLARING FUCKING ISSUE, the conversion rate of point to USD is so fucking LOW that they’re actually fucking worth LESS than the Naira for example.

I’m not saying that people shouldn’t commission those on tumblr. Dude if you want effort, I would say go commission a Tumblr Artist. Tumblr artists are REALLY AMAZING. But if you want a deal, then look around DA and save up points! Yeah its a little harder to find things, but its honestly worth the search. 

If you want a deal, go to dA and take advantage of some kids who are just now getting their artist’s legs and learning to make their skill into a profitable business but hey fuck that noise, let’s make sure we can get art on the cheap and WHO GIVES A FUCK about y’know, educating these kids so they don’t let themselves get ripped off!!!! 

WOW!!!!

You sure are a stunning, shining fucking beacon of NO. 

This is deplorable. Points are not a good form of currency as they are not liquid assets, can only be used on one website for one purpose, do not teach the value of dollars to hours work parallels to artists OR buyers, and generally create a really unsatisfactory system for people to squeeze art out of those who are ignorant to how detrimental the point system is.

As Kylee said, get pooped on.

kyleehenke:

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STOPPP RIGHT THERE BUSTER

I just found this in a commission journal on DA. Points commissions are honestly the worst because A) lots of people offering to take points usually have no idea how much they’re actually worth and B) points are only a valid currency on DEVIANTART. Unless you’re trying to buy yourself a subscription there is almost no point in doing this.

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This is an example of the amounts DA charges to buy points. The person in the top screenshot was charging 30 points for /a full color/. That is a TINY FRACTION OF A DOLLAR. You trying to get robbed dude??

I just cannot adequately express my rage over DA points. Here’s a whole other post explaining why you should also hate the shit out of the points system in further detail

Finished!
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monstersinthestars:

hey here’s a reminder

you’ve made it this far when it comes to art, you’ve improved so much compared to where you started, and you’ve got it in you to make it a whole lot further

don’t let your nagging self hatred get to you, just keep drawing, keep working.  you’re gonna be fine!

Sailor Jupiter WIP
I just really liked Episode 5 of Crystal.
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